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SIR PHILIP DE ORREBY (presumably son of Herbert son of Alard, otherwis e Herbert de Orreby), born probably ca 1160, appears to have entered t he service of the Earls of Chester at an early age, and to have been i n constant attendance upon Earl Ranulph after his succession as Earl . He was justiciar of Chester in 1207, or earlier, till his resignatio n of the office in 1229. He married, 1stly, Emma, daughter of Marger y DE COVENTRE, whom the Earl, as her guardian, gave him in marriage. H e married, 2ndly, Alice DE BAUMVILLE. He died circa 1230, dower bein g allowed to his widow Alice by her son Fulk de Orreby. [Complete Peer age X:168-9, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)] Herbert de Orreby, son o f Alard, was Constable to Gilbert de Gant, Earl of Lincoln, and to hi s son-in-law, Simon de St. Liz, Earl of Northampton, after Simon's mar riage to the Countess Alice, daughter and heir of Earl Gilbert; and i t was presumably by the service of constable that he held Orby (in whi ch place he granted land to the monks of Bardney), of the two Earls su ccessively, as did his son John, after him, of Gilbert de Gant II. Pro of has not been found that Philip was one of the younger sons--probabl y the 2nd--of Herbert, son of Alard, by Agnes his wife, daughter of Si mon FitzWilliam (of Kyme), named probably after her brother Philip d e Kyme, but there is a strong presumption that it was the fact. Sour ce • http://trees.ancestry.com/pt/AMTCitationRedir.aspx?tid=172521&p id=179773713 Biography Phillip was the son of Herbert d'Orreby an d Agnes de Kyme. He was the father of: •Phillip d'Orreby (1190-1231 ) Sir Philip de Orreby, Knight, b. ca. 1160, d. ca. 1230, Justicato r of Chester 1208-1229, Constable to Gilbert de Gant, Earl of Lincoln , by wife, Emma, daughter of Walter de Coventre, d. by 1235, of Covent ry, Warwick and Ashly & Thurlby, Lincoln Bank's The Dormant and Extin t Baronage of England, p. 388 his wife is given as Alicia de Barnville , and his son and heir was Phillip who married the daughter and heir o f Strange Lord of Dalby Sir Philip de Orreby's wife, and mother of hi s son also named Philip is given as Alice de Bamville in the Visitatio n Cheshire. His father is given as Herbert de Orreby, son of Alardus . Philip de Orreby, justice of Chester who paid five hundred marcs fo r this privilege, on the death of their father Thurstan, abt 1218 or 1 219 (3 Henry III). In the publication, Lancashire Inquests, Extents , and Feudal Aids, page 147 contained in a footnote, it is stated "O n July 16 1219, justiciar of Chester, fined by 50 marks to have the wa rdship and marriage of Robert, son of Thurstan Banastre, who attaine d his majority circa 1239. Robert Banastre and John, his heir, both di ed before 27 Feb 1241 Philip de Orreby, of Alvanley, justiciary of Ch eshire, 1209 to 1228, married Alice Banville, and had two sons: Philli p, of Alvanley, married Lucy, daughter and heir of Roger de Montalt, a nd had an only daughter and heiress, Agnes, wife of Walkelynde Arder n Fulke, justice of Chester in 44 Henry III, married to the daughter o f Strange, Lord of Dalby, and had a daughter named Alicia who marrie d Peter Corbet, of Leighton. He also had a son, Sir John de Orreby w h married Isabella, younger sister and co-heiress of Robert, Lord de T atteshall, and 2ndly, Jane by whom he left a son named after his fathe r. Sources Weis' Ancestral Root . . . , 28:150 Bank's The Dorman t and Extint Baronage of England, p. 388 The Visitation of Cheshire , pg. 188 The Visitation of Lancashire has in a footnote on page 12 6 Burke's Genealogical and Heraldic Dictionary of the Peerage and Bar onatage of The British Empire, pg. 609