«Hilduin» III de RameruptEtà: 92 anni940–1032
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- «Hilduin» III de Ramerupt
| Nascita | tra il 940 e il 1005 40 |
| Nascita di un figlio n° 1 | «Hilduin» IV de Ramerupt tra il 970 e il 1025 (Età 30 anni) |
| Morte di un nonno materno | ?? de Ramerupt tra il 900 e il 1045 |
| Morte di una nonna paterna | Hersende ?? tra il 900 e il 1050 |
| Morte di un figlio | «Hilduin» IV de Ramerupt circa 1063 (Età 123 anni) |
| Morte del padre | «Hilduin» II de Ramerupt tra il 992 e il 1065 (Età 52 anni) |
| Morte | tra il 1032 e il 1100 (Età 92 anni) |
| Titolo | Seigneur, de Ramerupt sì |
| Famiglia con genitori |
| padre |
«Hilduin» II de Ramerupt Nascita: tra il 900 e il 970 80 50 Morte: tra il 992 e il 1065 |
| himself |
«Hilduin» III de Ramerupt Nascita: tra il 940 e il 1005 40 Morte: tra il 1032 e il 1100 |
| «Hilduin» III de Ramerupt + … … |
| himself |
«Hilduin» III de Ramerupt Nascita: tra il 940 e il 1005 40 Morte: tra il 1032 e il 1100 |
| figlio |
«Hilduin» IV de Ramerupt Nascita: tra il 970 e il 1025 30 Morte: circa 1063 |
| Nota | http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/CHAMPAGNE%20NOBILITY.htm HILDUIN [III ] de Ramerupt, son of [HILDUIN [II] Seigneur de Ramerupt & his wife -- -] (-after 1032). Arbois de Jubainville names Hilduin [II] and adds th at "on peut supposer que cet Hilduin était fils" of Hilduin [II], imp lying that there is no primary source which confirms that they were fa ther and son [1]. Comte [de Montdidier]. Seigneur de Ramerupt. Rober t II King of France confirmed the donation of "Manasses comes" to Char tres Notre-Dame by charter dated 4 Feb 1031, signed by "…Manasses co mitis, Hilduini comitis fratris eius, filiorum eius Manassis et Hildui ni, Burcardo de Montemorenciaco, Evrardi filii Hilduini de Britoglio , Amalrici de Monteforti, Milonis de Caprosa…" [2]. "…Hilduinus co mes et Hilduinus filius eius…" subscribed the charter dated 1032 und er which "Odo comes palatinus Francorum regis" founded Epernay abbey [ 3]. m ---. The name of Hilduin's wife is not known. A suggestion abou t the family connections of Hilduin´s wife is provided by the ''Genea logiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis'' which names "comes Suessionis et come s de Dommartin et comes de Ronaco et Manasses cui agnomen Calva-asina " as brothers ("fratres") of "Helduino comiti de Ramerut", naming "Rai naldum comitem Suessionis et Iohannem, qui fratri successit in comitat um, et Manassem Suessionensem episcopum et filias" as the children o f "supradictus comes Suessionis Guilermus… frater iam dicti Helduini " [4]. It is clear from other sources that Guillaume Comte de Soisson s descended from the family of the dukes of Normandy. The only way i n which the ''Genealogiæ'' could make sense is if "fratres" can be in terpreted as including brothers-in-law (an interpretation which has be en observed and confirmed as correct in other cases). If that is corre ct, it is possible that Hilduin´s wife married, as her second husband , Renaud Comte de Soissons, although that hypothesis would seem chrono logically difficult unless Hilduin´s widow was Renaud´s second wife . As discussed elsewhere in the present document, it is likely that th e wife of Renaud Comte de Soissons was ---, niece of Guy Archbishop o f Reims, daughter of ---. This affiliation is suggested by one versio n of the ''Gesta Episcoporum Cameracensium (Continuatio)'' which name s “Manasses Remensium archiepiscopus, electi Manassæ avunculus” [ 5]. The latter refers to Manassès Bishop of Cambrai and later Bisho p of Cambrai, who was the grandson of Renaud Comte de Soissons, and th e former to Manassès Archbishop of Reims who was the son of Manassè s “le Chauve” Vidame de Reims. It appears unlikely that the famil y connection was through the Normandy family of Renaud´s son-in-law G uillaume “Busac” d´Eu. On the other hand, the connection may hav e been through the previous generation, asssuming that “avunculus |